I was originally going to let this just go off and be forgotten, but I thought I'd repost this, because I know it'll be brought up again some day.
I don't like Firefly.
Not the Cobra saboteur, or the Batman pyromaniac, or the Rob Zombie’s
psychopathic family. Joss Whedon’s Firefly. Yes… THAT Firefly. (Oh yes,
I’m goin’ there.) Before I continue, I want to emphasize that I got
nothing against the man or his other works. I wasn’t a fan of Buffy or
Angel, not because I disliked them, but because it just wasn’t what I
was interested in. I loved his run on X-Men, up until that conclusion
(and I probably wouldn’t have disliked it so much if it hadn’t been so
chronically late all the time) and I look forward to his Avengers movie.
(Though, I have nothing good to say about Dollhouse. I’m still irked
they cancelled the Sarah Conner Chronicles for it.)
You see, at that time when the show was airing, science fiction was essentially was in a dearth. Star Trek: Enterprise
was sucking Warp Factor vapors right out of drydock, Star Wars had just
delivered Episode II, which I consider to be the worst of the saga (And
I LIKED the prequels), X-Files had wrapped up with a whimper, Lexx had ended with a depressing sigh, Babylon 5 had embarrassed itself with Crusade, Stargate SG1 was still a Showtime exclusive, and Sci-Fi Channel had JUST cancelled the really awesome and really underrated Farscape. (I miss Scorpius.) If you were a science fiction fan, Firefly
was your only real outlet. So I understand why it’s so popular. It’s
one of those “right place, right time” sort of things. The problem is
every sci-fi fan and friend I had was telling me I have to watch Firefly,
and that it’s the greatest science fiction show in years. And at the
time, I didn’t want to watch it, I just did not want to get involved
into a new show. Especially on FOX, since it’ll be cancelled in a
season. Doesn’t matter if it’s good or not, if it didn’t get higher
ratings than reruns of Cops, then getting attached to a new show was just an exercise in masochism. And it had happened over and over again. Millennium, Strange Luck, VR5, Brisco Country Jr., Brimstone, Wonderfalls, The Lone Gunmen…
I just didn’t feel like getting attached to a show AGAIN and having it
cancelled, leaving the series in a cliffhanger or on a downer note. And
of course, it was cancelled. Big shock. But even after it’s
cancellation, people were still praising it’s greatness to me. And I
just didn’t really wanna see it. I didn’t want to watch a series that
I’d just get irritated at because it ended on an unresolved note. Then
Serenity came out, and then my friends were all “Dave, it’s got an
ending now! And the movie was awesome! You HAVE to watch it!”
You see, especially at that time, I had this reputation of being the
‘guy who doesn’t like anything.’ Like I was cynical and saw flaws in
everything. Which is frellin’ hilarious, because if anyone even really
talks to me for more than ten minutes, they find out that I’m a pretty
open minded guy who likes cheesy stupid movies, bad pop music, and silly
cartoons. I just don’t like pretentious. You might have noticed in our
comic, when faced against great odds, our characters don’t pull out some
magical deus ex machina about the meaninglessness of life and how
humanity is a cancer or whatever. We use a steel chair on a vampire and
had a green dreadlocked cyborg roundhouse kick the one-eyed bitch. Our
book is many things, but pretentious is NOT one of them. I had a long
rant about the Matrix movies here, but it was too much of a derailment.
(So I’ll get back to them later.) But the same people who were telling
me how The Matrix films were the greatest movies ever were telling me
how Firefly was the greatest show ever. My Pretentious Warning Alarm
went off like a klaxon. So I managed to avoid watching it for a few
years.
So one day, I was bored, and I decided to borrow my uncle’s copy of
the show, and sat down and watched it. I sat through seven episodes: It
wasn’t pretentious at all. But it wasn’t the greatest show ever. It was
okay. Really, that’s it. Just okay. After the seventh episode… Time came
to swap out the disk, and just didn’t want to. I just didn’t care. I
didn’t care about River, didn’t care about Mal Reynolds, even though we
shared a last name, I didn’t care about Zoe, or the Reavers or whatever
the hell. (I kinda liked Book though. He was kinda neat.) I could see
why people liked the show and that was cool, but it just didn’t appeal
to me. In actuality, I thought it borrowed too much from other science
fiction shows. Outlaw Star is the one that immediately popped to my
head. Space western, smart mouth but disallusioned hero in a brown
trench coat and a pistol, renegade crew, young emotionally impaired girl
who seems “sweet and innocent but harbors darkness in her”, badass
chick who can kick anyone’s ass, a sidekick like mechanic youth, and of
course the Serenity looked similar to the Outlaw Star. All it was
missing was a Ctarl-Ctarl. But hey, you know… Star Wars and Indiana
Jones were essentially homages and borrowed heavily from old 1930
serials and adventure flicks, and they were my favorite films. And it’s
not like influences aren’t found rife in my own artwork. I didn’t mind
the universe, I just didn’t care about the story. So I jumped ahead and
watched Serenity and just to see how it ended, and “Oh wow,
what a shock! Joss Whedon killed the kinda likable character! I didn’t
see that coming a mile away.”
So yeah, I didn’t hate Firefly. I just didn’t like it.
That’s not where the fun begins with me though. It’s when I tell people I didn’t like Firefly,
they start down this same exact list each time. This has happened so
much, it’s in the double digits. It’s hilarious. Here’s an approximate retelling
of all the conversations:
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ME: I didn’t like Firefly.
THEM: Why not? (Almost always in an accusatory manner, like I just insulted their genitals.)
ME: I watched the first seven episodes, and the movie, and it didn’t appeal to me. Just wasn’t my thing.
THEM: Did you watch them in order?
ME: um... Yes.
THEM: What didn’t you like about them?
ME: I just didn’t really care for the characters. The
characters they bothered to develop I wasn’t really liking and I wasn’t
all that interested in the story.
THEM: (Usually here they ask for specifics, which
they almost always tell me how River isn’t a one dimensional and she
develops more as time goes on, or that Zoe isn‘t a Mary Sue.)
ME: Yes, but I wasn’t liking just about any character
by the time I quit. I think they should have developed themselves a bit
more… Like within the first few episodes.
THEM: Well you got to watch more than seven episodes! (This is always in that “insulting tone” like I’m an idiot for not realizing this.)
ME: I watched seven episodes and the movie. That’s over
half the series. That’s the equivalent of watching two and a half of
the three Lord of the Rings movies. If I didn’t care about Frodo and Sam
by the battle of Minas Tirith, I wasn’t going to care about them ever.
I’m not saying the show was bad, I was just saying it wasn’t my thing.
THEM: But you liked (insert whatever dumb sci-fi movie or show that I liked that nerds hated, like the Star Wars Prequels for example).
ME: Yeah, and they were flawed, but there was stuff in it I really liked, usually the characters. (As bad as Episode I was, Qui-Gon Jinn was really likable.) I just didn’t care about the characters in Firefly. It's like the one good line from the second 'From Dusk til Dawn' movie: "When I care more about the characters, I care more about the fuckin'."
THEM: Whatever, you’re an idiot.
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And that’s every goddamn discussion I ever have about Firefly.
Even though I said I like Joss Whedon and I said I didn’t hate the
show, and I’m not even saying people are wrong for liking it... The fucking Browncoats decide to get a major stick up their butt for it!
Imagine the crap I put up with when I tell people I liked Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.
5 comments:
I don't like Firefly either and I thought Serenity was stupid. There was nothing in the series that we had not already seen in better SciFi shows by 1999.
Trouble is Whedon-fans are a cult and if you don't like something their master made they get all weird.
I liked it, but I've never understood the burning hatred some fans have for anyone that doesn't think it's the greatest piece of fiction ever. I've seen it with other shows as well (The most memorable being a Doctor Who fanboy that turned me off even trying the show for years), but the 'Browncoats' strike me as one of the ruder groups.
@Matrix Dragon: Gee, I wonder who that Doctor Who fanboy could be. :P
Well, yes. You know who it is. But it is a shining example of the sort of fanboy who simply can't accept other opinions. And like I said, the Browncoats are some of the ruder ones I've seen over the years. My liking, but not utterly loving it has actually gotten crap thrown at me on various forums over the years.
On a more important topic then Joss Whedon fans... I miss Scorpius too. I also miss the fact it was sci-fi with muppets, and it worked so well. I've only seen episodes of Farscape here and there, in no sort of coherent order, so there's a lot about it I don't get, given it was a show that not only had a very tight continuity, but actually made it work well, but I loved it. Every now and then, box sets show up in local stores. Maybe one day I'll see it when I have cash to spare.
I wasn't a fan of Firefly, I still have to see the film, but my reasons for not liking them are the same as yours.
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